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Says Naomi Smith

Says Naomi SmithIt is all too possible to round a corner on horseback and come upon a group of cattle with no prior warning -this WILL result in a horse being badly spooked at best, bolting at worst -it is only a matter of time ........... read more

Frensham Common Land and ponds, Surrey


Council admits they do not have freehold of the common

Says Tony Barnett

Says Tony BarnettDaniel Bainbridge, Waverley Borough Council has stated that they do not have freehold over the commons, only a lease from NT, as it shows on the commons register.

The registration is not conclusive and for reference only.

Conclusion must be that the authority and NT are complicit, the powers to scratch out the registration lies within Surrey County Council offices.



The council is in breach of its duties.

I have requested that these matters to put to the policing and justice minister Damian Green and communities and local government minister Eric Pickles.

Says Tony Barnett

Says Tony BarnettAs the county council Is the registration authority and that the Council has confirmed by disclosure to show that the National Trust does not own or have any legal occupation on the common land apart from being able to apply for safety measures for the "Kings Ridge Mounds" it amazes me why you write that the National Trust "owns". The registration shows an application was registered by them claiming ownership, but it is for reference only, the plans show in Red "RO", this means reference only also.

An application was made to Pins by Waverley's Jane Bowden claiming consent had been given by the National Trust, if, the trust had any rights on and over the commons, then the 1971 (23) gives them the right as owners to make the application instead of causing false representation by another, as it stands the local authority have been duped and is guilty of collusion with NT to use property not belonging as collateral to gain (see 2006 fraud act)

Would it not be prudent then to have that registration scratched out to save confusion?

This is the same with both ponds, there is no registration where pre-registration of titles to pre-date 1189 can be shown (see Paul Stafford Chancery Bar) , so in both instances subject to section 4(1) of the 1965 CRA, the council is in breach of its duties.

To conclude 1A of this email, to register ownership of Frensham commons and ponds,if freehold they would have been recorded as was required under the 1925 Law of property act, or the 1936 property act, which would have been noted by the commons commissioner when creating S 9 of the 65 act, which information should be with your office, in essence, these common lands/ponds are section 9, where the commons commissioner could not trace an/any owner-s.

Helen has disclosed that there is no legal owner of the common land and ponds, your Mr.Ian Gray could have/should have searched the common register before taking the post as sec to the angling club, double standards.

1B Section 3 (2) of the 1965 CRA requires common land registers to be open for inspection at all reasonable times on request by any member of the public, as the county council has now stated, however, Waverley state that leases of the commons from NT have been obtained from the "owners", something that your council registration officer should examine.

Further Claire, these matters are for public scrutiny whether it names and shames or not, public servants are committing fraud through false presentation and it will be lawful under the circumstances to say that the county council is in collusion with Waverley and the National Trust, I have all the documents gained form a member(ex)0 of the trust which consists of plans only.

Waverley Borough have made false representations and gained land registry documents, without any disclosure.

As you are aware I have reported Ian Gray for a serious breach of his office commitments as an enforcement officer with SCC to support his own agenda as secretary of his fishing club, this to is a matter for public consumption Claire as he is aware of the club membership club fees to fish commoners rights of piscary.

In conclusion I have requested that these matters to put to the policing and justice minister Damian Green and communities and local government minister Eric Pickles.

Thank you for allowing further contact, the ICO are involved, but I am sure that these matters, as the local authority will be able to put right the wrongs making further involvement with ICO.

Says Linda Wright

Says Linda WrightWe moved to a Shropshire location a year ago having surveyed the local OS map and noted the significant number of bridleways around the property. Sadly the map appears a total fiction. Scarce any of the bridleways are usable ........... read more

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